Janice Newell Bissex is a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist, cookbook author, speaker, and Holistic Cannabis Practitioner.
After her dad found relief from his pain using medical marijuana it became Janice’s mission to help others suffering from chronic pain, anxiety, insomnia, autoimmune diseases, IBD/IBS, and other debilitating conditions find relief with cannabis/CBD. She completed training at the Holistic Cannabis Academy, and now advises clients on access, proper cannabinoid ratios, dosing, best consumption methods, and cooking with cannabis at Jannabis Wellness. She partnered with a Colorado manufacturer of organically-grown medicinal grade hemp to provide phytocannabinoid-rich hemp/CBD products for her clients under her Jannabis Wellness label.
Janice spent much of her career creating recipes and educating families about healthy cooking and eating at Meal Makeover Moms and Janice Cooks. A 2015 recipient of the Media Excellence Award from the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, Janice has authored five books, including Color and Eat the Alphabet: Healthy Eating from A to Z, an educational coloring book for kids of all ages.
Janice is past president of the Massachusetts Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics and past chair of the Food & Culinary Professionals practice group of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics. A mom of grown daughters, Janice lives outside of Boston with her husband and miniature dachshund, Ella. She enjoys kayaking, hiking, travel, yoga, and cooking and hosting events in her recently renovated kitchen.
Mathea Ford: [00:00:26] Hey there it’s Mathea. Welcome back to the Nutrition Experts Podcast. The podcast featuring nutrition experts who are leading the way using food starts today right now with our next guest. It’s great to have Janice Bissex on the show today. Janice welcome to Nutrition Experts. I’m excited to have you on the show and share your expertise with my tribe.
Janice Bissex: [00:00:49] Well, I’m excited to be on your show as well. Thanks for inviting me over Mathea.
Mathea Ford: [00:00:53] Well, I just love this topic because it’s something that dietitians I think don’t know a whole lot about. And honestly even here in Oklahoma we just approved medical marijuana. We’re going to talk about cannabis today and even just talking to my doctor like “How are you thinking about implementing this type stuff?” There is a little bit of fear still a little bit. So…
Janice Bissex: [00:01:18] Absolutely!
Mathea Ford: [00:01:20] I would love you just to start with telling my listeners a little bit more about you and what you do.
Mathea Ford: [00:01:24] Okay. Well, let’s see. I’ve been a Registered Dietitian/Nutritionist for a few decades and I’ve done everything from cardiac rehab to selling nutrition software, working at a luxury hotel. And then I co-founded Meal Makeover Moms with a nutrition colleague for almost 15 years. We wrote five books and we taught busy families how to eat a healthy diet. And that was all great. I enjoyed that and being the sort of family nutrition experts. And that was good. And then a couple of years ago my dad was sick he suffered multiple spinal fractures and he was in a lot of pain. And he was put on the traditional pain meds and they had terrible side effects. They made him a zombie. He became excruciatingly constipated that required hospitalization. So, finally I said to his doctor “you know isn’t there anything else that we can do for him to help manage his pain?” And I said “What about medical marijuana?” Now, Mathea, I honestly knew nothing about medical marijuana or cannabis in general. It just never really crossed my radar. I tried once in college because I felt like I should do that before I leave. But that was it. That was my… That was my biggest you know experience with cannabis. So, the doctor looked at me and he said I think that’s a great idea. And I thought “oh boy! Well, now I need to learn about it.” So, I started to learn about it. I took my dad to get certified to a doctor, he got a vape pen with medical marijuana and we came home. He was in a lot of pain and he took two puffs and he said “wow!” And I said “Are you okay?” And he said “I’m not in pain.” And right then I said this is it. I am completely changing my career focus. I am going to go back to school to learn about cannabis and find out why does it work. I had no idea why it worked. And that’s what I decided to do. And I basically haven’t looked back since.
Mathea Ford: [00:03:39] Wow! That’s an excellent story to see in that personal moment to say it worked that quick.
Janice Bissex: [00:03:47] And it was just so surprising to me because I wasn’t… I wasn’t in tune to that and didn’t want to say I was angry but I thought here’s something you can help people without all those terrible side effects from opioids and other pain meds and we don’t know about it. Why are we not being told about this? Well, the first obvious answer is that on the federal level cannabis is illegal. So, that’s the reason that we are really told about it. And yet 30 states Oklahoma. Welcome aboard 30th state to legalize medical marijuana. 30 states. It is legal so… But doctors don’t know about it. They really don’t. They weren’t trained. You and I weren’t trained in this. I mean I didn’t know anything about cannabis. So, it’s really the last decade or two that the medical benefits have become more widely known. Now it’s been used medicinally for 10000 years. You know back in Chinese medicine it was used in India. It’s been used throughout time. But then it became sort of demonized in the early nineteen hundreds and there was a big “oh just say no! It’s bad for you it’s the evil weed. It’s going to ruin your brain” and all of that. So, it was sort of pushed aside and then over the last couple of decades it’s come back to life. So, people now they’re doing more research around the world not in the U.S. because it’s illegal. So, there’s a little bit of research being done here. But a lot of research done especially in Israel and the Netherlands places like that that have some pretty good research showing the medical benefits of cannabis. So, that is something that people are catching on to and saying “Okay, wait a minute if that’s an option why would I take these pharmaceuticals?”.
Mathea Ford: [00:05:47] Especially that you know can be addictive and cause a lot of problems. Can you tell us what it is about cannabis that causes it to work quickly and help with so many different conditions?
Janice Bissex: [00:05:59] It all starts with the Endocannabinoid System. And this was discovered in 1992. It’s a neurotransmitter system in our bodies and we actually produce at least two cannabinoids. So, when you look at the cannabis plant there are about 100 cannabinoids. They’re just compounds in the plant which every plant has different compounds that may give them health benefits. So, cannabis has about a hundred. We produce two on our own in our own bodies. Anandamide which is called the Bliss Molecule and 2-AG. So, we produce these cannabinoids and the whole goal of this Endocannabinoid System is to maintain homeostasis. So, if your body doesn’t produce enough Anandamide for example the incidence of anxiety is much higher because Anandamide can promote a feeling of wellbeing.
Janice Bissex: [00:06:58] It can potentiate your serotonin receptors. So, those happy people that you know chances are they’re producing a good amount of anandamide in their own bodies. So, what happens is if you don’t produce a lot of anandamide then you could have more anxiety and depression. So, if you introduce CBD or cannabis and we’ll talk about the difference between those in a minute. If you introduce that into your body by taking a tincture or a pill or vaping some cannabis flour then that gets your whole system working better. So, you’re helping your own system produce more anandamide and therefore you feel better. So, it’s kind of amazing. And I mentioned CBD and CBD is one of the cannabinoids in cannabis. There is THC which people more likely have heard of and that’s the cannabinoid that’s responsible for the psycho activity or the intoxication. So, you could very well get high or stoned if you have a high THC cannabis or marijuana variety. CBD does not have the intoxicating side effect. So, if you take CBD, you get a lot of the health benefits like it’s antianxiety that I spoke of, pain – decreases pain. So, those neurotransmitters that I was talking about. So, you’ve got a whole system where if you have pain in your body the signal comes down the neurotransmitter and then it goes to the next one in that sends the pain signal down to your leg or wherever you have pain. So what cannabis does or CBD does is it interrupts that signal so that that pain signal isn’t getting there. In another way that CBD decreases pain is that it’s a potent anti-inflammatory. So, inflammation is one of the causes of many of our chronic diseases it’s a contributing factor. So, if you can take something that tones down the inflammation in your body I mean we talk about an anti-inflammatory diet so we want to eat lots of vegetables and we want to you know have these foods that are anti-inflammatory. Well, CBD does that. I mean it is a plant right? We’re supposed to be eating a plant based diet so CBD from the plant and it’s a potent anti-inflammatory so that’s just another way that you see a decrease in pain using CBD or cannabis. The ratio of CBD to THC is something that everybody should look at when they’re choosing a medicine. Some people actually require a little bit of THC. There’s nothing wrong with THC. THC has medical value. It’s just that a lot of the people that I work with don’t want to be high. They don’t want to be stoned. They just want relief. They want relief from muscle spasms, from pain, from anxiety, from insomnia without the high. So, that’s why the CBD has seen a lot more popularity recently.
Mathea Ford: [00:10:26] One I know that in most states I believe CBD is legal because it does not contain THC.
Janice Bissex: [00:10:31] Yes, if you go strictly by the definition it’s legal in in almost every state. There are some states that it’s a little bit gray and then at the federal level they say that any derivatives of cannabis are illegal. I actually had someone call the DEA and say “So, what’s the deal is CBD legal or is it not legal?” And if the person at the DEA said “We are certainly not concerned people consuming CBD.” You know that’s just not at the top of our radar. Now, the FDA on the other hand is cracking down on some manufacturers because right now with CBD showing such people are really interested in it. So, a lot of people are getting on board and saying “I’m going to sell CBD” and they’re sourcing their CBD from around the world. There aren’t tight controls. They did tests and they found that more than half did not contain the CBD that the manufacturer said. So, you really have to be careful buying CBD online from someone or some business that you don’t really know is for real and anyone who wants to buy CBD. They should demand to ask for independent lab testing of the product.
Mathea Ford: [00:11:55] Can you talk a little bit more about cannabis in general and kind of how it’s available for people to use?
Janice Bissex: [00:12:00] There are a lot of different ways that you can consume cannabis. Everyone knows about the smoking. You know you can smoke a joint, a pipe, a bong. So that’s one way to get it for the most parts you know smoking a joint. Some people still like to do that but some of the toxins go into your lung and that’s not my favorite way and I don’t have any clients that prefer that method of smoking there is vaping which is better than smoking because it burns at a lower temperature a couple hundred degrees lower so you don’t get those toxic byproducts. So, if you decide to vape. When my dad first went to the dispensary they gave him a vape pen with an oil cartridge and it looks like a little pen and you breathe in and you can get it that way. But most people turn to things like tinctures. So, you can get a tincture that’s oil based or alcohol based. The alcohol based ones, I typically don’t recommend. They’re very… To put it under your tongue is it doesn’t taste good, it burns. So, what I typically work with is an oil based tincture and you just put it under your tongue for a couple of minutes, it gets absorbed in about 10 or 15 minutes and you see relief. You can also take in a gel cap, a soft gel and you say “Okay, I want 25 milligrams of CBD everyday to help me with inflammation, insomnia, pain whatever.” So, you take the pill and a lot of people like to do this just because they take it with their multivitamin or whatever medications are already taking and I advise people to take it with a fat source because that can extend the relief the effect of the CBD or the cannabis. And that’s another way to do it very easy you just put a pill.
Janice Bissex: [00:14:01] There are also topical ways of administering cannabis or CBD which I have seen amazing success and you just it’s a little balm or a suave or cream and you massage it wherever you hurt. So, if your knuckles hurt from arthritis or if your knee is painful or a shoulder or you have a muscle ache in the back. I have a young woman who is a runner and she said if “I don’t massage some CBD cream on my back I can’t run.” So it’s it’s pretty amazing so that’s another way that you can consume it and you can use a CBD cream or a cannabis cream it’s absorbed just through the epidermis so it doesn’t go into your blood. So, some people are worried about drug tests and that’s another thing CBD will not cause a positive drug test. Had that question a lot. THC is what they check for. Another way of administering CBD or cannabis is suppositories which are pretty effective for things like colon cancer. People who have severe menstrual cramps. A suppository gets the medicine really right where right where you need it and people have seen amazing results with that.
Mathea Ford: [00:15:21] So, that made me think a little bit about the Endocannabinoid System help I’m saying that right?
Janice Bissex: [00:15:27] You are. Excellent!
Mathea Ford: [00:15:29] Is it like our lymph nodes system or is it like a circulatory system or is it completely different?
Janice Bissex: [00:15:37] It’s completely different. It’s more of a neurotransmitter system. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Even though like the CBD, you’ve got these cannabinoids and we have receptors in our body in the CB1 receptors which is mostly what THC effects are in the brain which is why you get the high and the spinal cord and then the CB2 receptors which CBD can have an effect on on our immune cells in on our organs. So, that’s the difference there so when you take CBD you get more of a body not high but you get relief – body relief as opposed to THC giving you a little bit more of a head. You know it affects your head more. But you know another thing I just thought of is that people who have concussions very important CBD is a neuro protectant. In fact the U.S. government has a patent on CBD as a neuroprotectant and antioxidant. They got that patent in 2003 so they know that CVD is good for neuro protection. So anyone who has a traumatic brain injury, a concussion. My neighbor had an accident surfing in January. He was surfing and the board went way up and he thought he was clear so he took his hands off of his head and crack. He had a serious concussion so I went right over there I said you need to take this CBD and he did. He did. And so it’s important that people know that that is an option for brain injury on. In particular our veterans coming home. I mean they should absolutely be allowed to use cannabis and CBD.
Mathea Ford: [00:17:30] Yeah, that will be an interesting thing what the V.A. being a federal organization.
Janice Bissex: [00:17:35] Exactly! That is the challenge. So, really what I might hope is in the next couple of years I don’t know if it’ll be that soon that cannabis will lose its Schedule One designation. So, they in 1970, it was they put cannabis in the same category as heroin and said there’s no medical value and it has a high potential for abuse and made it a schedule one drug and it’s just it’s so not true and yet there it stays. All the researchers can’t is to the contrary and yet for some reason our lawmakers are not willing to you know take action to take it away from that Schedule 1 status which is really preventing a lot of people from getting relief if you’re in one of the 20 states that doesn’t allow medical marijuana and you know that it’s it’s illegal in your 80 years old and in terrible pain you’re not going to do that. So, I just really hope that we can make that happen.
Janice Bissex: [00:18:44] And part of that is working on the stigma because there is still a huge stigma and I’m not going to lie. Two years ago, I was kind of there. I didn’t know that about all the medical benefits and I was like you know people they just want to smoke and get high. You know it’s just so not true. I you know I was a little judgee you know about people who maybe turned to cannabis. I’m a dietitian. So, and now the more I learn the more I say I can’t believe that that we should we should be promoting this. This should be the first line defense against pain before going to the pharmaceuticals.
Mathea Ford: [00:19:23] So, what are some conditions that people use cannabis for?
Janice Bissex: [00:19:28] Pain, anxiety, insomnia. Those are three big ones. Also M.S., Inflammatory Bowel Disease, ulcerative colitis and Crohn’s. People have seen amazing results. I have a 22 year old friend here in town and he says that without cannabis, before cannabis he didn’t sleep through the night. He couldn’t go to college. He said I was in pain. I was had to be near a bathroom. It was awful. And now with cannabis because it’s an anti-spasmodic, it’s an antiinflammatory, he sleeps through the night and he’s now going to college. So, to me that right there that’s such a success story. I have some people with some clients with a Parkinson’s disease and I have this one gentleman who is just the sweetest man and he sends me a note about once every month or two and he says “Okay. Send me two more bottles of tincture” and he’ll say things like “I haven’t fallen in 43 days” which was not the case before he started taking it. It’s amazing. M.S people with M.S. It helps with with the muscle spasticity, migraines.
Mathea Ford: [00:20:50] Yeah migraines, let’s talk about migraines.
Janice Bissex: [00:20:52] Yeah! So, I’ve worked with a few people with migraines. One person who has just awful migraines almost daily. She tried just the CBD a few months ago and she said “yeah, you know I really didn’t see a lot of relief. Okay.” So, another client came and we did the CBD soft gels and this is something new that I read, the CBD suave. So, what she does is when she’s getting a migraine, she massages the topical suave right where she feels the pain whether it’s between her brows she gets it below her. Her eye sockets. So, she massages the CBD in there and then she waits a few minutes and then wherever the pain, the pain they say will then move as it doesn’t like where you’ve put that. So, it will move and then she massages it to where it moves and then one more time. And she said it can stop a migraines. Now is it gonna work for everybody? Nope. Does Cannabis work for everybody? Nope. But I’m thinking about 85 to 90 percent of people can find relief using CBD in cannabis for a lot of these conditions.
Mathea Ford: [00:22:10] Are there times you said this is not going to work for everybody but are there times in CBT or marijuana or cannabis is not appropriate for use in a person? I’m thinking pregnancy for sure probably.
Janice Bissex: [00:22:23] Right! Pregnancy and lactation even though you know there’s some evidence that CBD is not at all but I certainly wouldn’t recommend that. Not at all a problem when you’re breast feeding but for right now until more research is done I would say yes. Pregnancy and breast feeding two times. You know and you’d think that I would say not for anyone under 21 but that’s not true. That’s not true! We have so many stories of young children who had 200 seizures a day. You may have seen Sanjay Gupta the documentary called Weed. And Sanjay he was not a fan of medical cannabis or cannabis he thought this is not something that we should be using. It’s a slippery slope and then he did this documentary and he followed a little girl Charlotte Figi who was having 200 seizures a day. They gave her cannabis. And guess what? She started having a seizure week. It’s an amazing story so a lot of kids with epilepsy have been helped in different seizure disorders. I find that the most exciting research right now is with autism. I have read some pretty interesting studies and have heard some anecdotal evidence about using CBD with autism because I mean CBD is a neuro calming agent so if you can calm those you know the electric impulses in the brain and you can sort of calm that all down. They’ve seen an improvement in behaviour in children with autism. So, to me that’s very exciting and also Alzheimer’s disease. They’ve had some great results with Alzheimer’s. Some of the people when you know when you go through which I did with my aunt they go through different phases and sometimes they sort of reach out they they strike people they go through that sort of violent stage. And again the CBD and the cannabis have been shown to calm them and make them happier. You know isn’t that really what our elderly population deserves? I mean they deserve pain relief. They deserve to be to be happy in their older years so I’m just such a huge proponent of figuring out what we can do to help people as they age. To keep them you know keep them happy and give them relief from their pain.
Mathea Ford: [00:25:00] So you’ve mentioned some research a few times. Is there any specific research that shows about the effectiveness or where is research being done and kind of what direction is it going?
Janice Bissex: [00:25:12] I’ve got a lot of research studies on my website so people can go to JannabisWellness.com. It’s Cannabis with a J. Yeah Jannabis.com and I have a whole resources page so for each condition pain I’ve got about seven or eight resources for you know insomnia,for anxiety. So I would say people could go there. And like I said there’s not a lot of good research in this country and people keep using that as an excuse. Well, until we have you know peer reviewed you know studies we can’t recommend it. Well, we can’t do that because it’s federally illegal.
Mathea Ford: [00:25:56] Right and they can’t sponsor any studies.
Janice Bissex: [00:25:58] Right! So, if we can’t do the studies because it’s illegal and yet we have research from other parts. Israel in particular they’re just so far ahead of us researching this. So, until it’s not federally illegal we’re not going to be able to do the widespread research that we want to do and doctors will still say “well, we don’t have enough research so I can’t say that you should try this” and some go so far as to say my friend brought her 85 year old mom who is in a lot of pain and said “you know we’d like to try CBD.” Doctor said “I don’t think that’s a good idea.” Now, what if my dad’s doctor had said that? I wouldn’t be doing what I’m doing now that’s for sure. And you know when you’re in your 80s if your doctor says “don’t do it.” Chances are you’re not going to do it. So, I find that to be very sad. I don’t blame the doctors for not understanding it because we weren’t trained in it unless like I said you’ve gone to med school in the last few years and you went to med school that is enlightened and willing to train you and teach you about this. They don’t know about it. So, now that’s a real that’s a real struggle.
Mathea Ford: [00:27:15] You mentioned a little bit about the ratio of the CBD to THC. What are some dosing recommendations? And does it vary based on a condition. Can you talk a little bit about that?
Janice Bissex: [00:27:26] It varies based on the person it varies based on the condition it varies based on someone’s endocannabinoid system. So, you might need two milligrams of let’s say CBD to find relief from your pain. And the next person might need 20. The next person might need 40. It’s so individual more so than any other medication that I’m aware of. It all has to do with your system and your endocannabinoid system and in your receptors and how many you have and which makes it difficult for me working with people to dose them. So, we usually start I always say “start low and go slow.” So, you start with a lower dose you might start with five milligrams and this I’m talking about CBD. If you’re starting cannabis with THC I would say you would start even lower like two milligrams of THC because if you do have a reaction and in you get high that’s that’s kind of scary for a lot of people. So, that’s something you would just start low and then you just work your way up and you know when I was just saying that it occurred to me I didn’t mention edibles when I told you about different ways that you can use cannabis. Edibles which would be any food that contains cannabis. It’s actually people say “oh you know they are they’re tricky and they are tricky” especially if they contain THC because an edible can take an hour or two to take effect. So, people take a little let’s say a five milligram dose of say a little chocolate square with THC five milligrams and they’ll take it and then 30-40 minutes later they say “Thanks, I have no relief from my pain. I’m going to take another one.” You know they wait a half hour and they’re like this is really ridiculous I’ll I’ll take another one and then all of a sudden at two hours bam they are they are high, they’re paranoid. So, and those are the effects that we want to avoid because once you’ve had that experience you’re not likely to go back and try it again. And cannabis is such a powerful tool that I hate to have people have that experience. So, for sure with edibles if you’re trying an edible for the first time you have to keep the THC very low and you have to wait two hours to see if it will take effect before you would take another another bite or another dose.
Mathea Ford: [00:29:59] Is there something with regards to how is absorbed. I know you mentioned it can take like an hour but if you have a pill or a edible when you get it is it gonna say five milligrams and you can expect to absorb 5 milligrams? Because we usually don’t absorb all.
Janice Bissex: [00:30:17] Exactly! Now, that’s variable as well. How much you’re actually going to absorb and when you take an edible if you five milligrams of THC in an edible it goes through your liver for processing. So, there’s an enzyme system, the CYP 450 system and you need that to break down your cannabis. If that system is being used to break down, let’s say alcohol or another drug it can impact how much you absorb and how quickly it’s broken down. And the other thing when it’s an edible, the THC is converted to a more potent form of THC when you take it as an edible. So, that’s the other thing. It’s a lot of experimentation to see really what dose and what ratio of cannabinoids works best. A lot of people can see relief with just the CBD. Some people need some THC whether it’s for migraines or I have a client with glioblastoma and she has tumours in her brain so she needs some THC because that’s where the action is. Another thing with the CBD is that some people say well you know the pharmaceutical companies are coming out with a CBD isolate or a THC isolate but to me to a lot of people the beauty of cannabis is the whole plant.
Janice Bissex: [00:31:49] So, there are there are 500 different compounds in cannabis. There are Terpenes that are responsible for the aroma and the taste. There are flavonoids which have health benefits, antioxidants and these cannabinoids. If you take a CBD deep isolate you’re just getting one compound whereas if you take a whole plant formula you’re getting all these others and they work synergistically. So, it would be like you know Mathea, you wouldn’t say to somebody you know broccoli is so good for you and winter squash they’re so good for you but here I’m going to give you a vitamin A capsule and that will be just as good. No! That’s not just as good you need all the other nutrients in the broccoli and they work they do work synergistically.
Mathea Ford: [00:32:39] I know we talked a little bit about practitioners kind of getting some questions. How do practitioners handle questions about cannabis? I mean I know we have probably our own personal beliefs but how do we help patients to understand it and what it can do? Where should people go to find more information?
Janice Bissex: [00:33:00] Good question. Because I think that we bring our own ideas into our counselling practice and if we have a stigma against cannabis, people will A) either not talk to you about it which that’s not good you want them to feel free to talk to you about these things and if you don’t know any… You can’t… I can’t expect my all my fellow dietitians to know what I know about cannabis. I did training. I mean I went through the Holistic Cannabis Academy which is an online training 35 modules with all the top experts in the field. So, I devoted you know almost a year to learning about this so I could do what I do. So, I would only expect dietitians to know that there are medical benefits. Here are some of the conditions that can help if you have someone with Crohn’s or ulcerative colitis or IBS or any of these conditions that I’ve talked about at least putting it out there and say you know we can learn about this. I can refer you to somebody who knows about this that can help you figure out what might help you.
Mathea Ford: [00:34:09] So can you talk a little bit about your training and why you felt the need to get certified versus just learning about it?
Janice Bissex: [00:34:17] Yeah! I mean I could have gone online and watched videos but I really felt that if I were going to do what I’m doing and counselling clients and speaking giving talks I’m doing grand rounds at my local hospital and a couple of weeks and I’m speaking at the annual meeting of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics in Washington D.C. in October. So, if I’m going to be “the expert” I really felt that I needed to be certified. And luckily at about the same time I was thinking about this to dietitians. Donna Shields and Laura Lagano they started this Holistic Cannabis Academy and they did all the work for pulling all the best speakers and developed a training program where I could learn what I needed to learn without going online. Because as we know a lot of the stuff online may or may not be 100 percent accurate. This way I know this is a good training program I’m going to learn when I need so that then I can that I can help others but I have to say I am still learning everyday. Everyday I’m learning more and more and I get more and more excited. I’ve never been this excited about anything I’ve done in my career. I just find this so fascinating.
Mathea Ford: [00:35:37] You’re right you can find information on who knows who wrote it or whatever but they’ve kind of got a filtered and educate process.
Janice Bissex: [00:35:46] And I’m happy to talk to anyone who has questions about the program. And I actually have a discount code for dietitians if they want to do the training.
Mathea Ford: [00:35:56] One question I always ask people is what’s your favorite food?
Janice Bissex: [00:36:01] I just had it actually. Avocado is probably my favorite. I just mashed that avocado on an English muffin and put a fried egg on top with a little bit of cheese. And that was that was my lunch. I also like dark chocolate. I like really good parmesan cheese. I know that that’s not one food but you know I have to say I could say my favorite food is CBD. That’s what I should’ve said.
Mathea Ford: [00:36:27] Nice.
Janice Bissex: [00:36:28] Yeah, I take I do take it every morning though I take it. I have my own line. Jannabis Wellness CBD Products and I have tinctures, soft gels and sauve and every morning I take a 10 milligram soft gel my breakfast and my multivitamin and some yeah that’s my favorite food. The heck with those avocados. I like my CBD soft gels.
Mathea Ford: [00:36:53] Well, I have taken CBD in the past and the biggest thing that I noticed in addition to some pain relief was focus and it’s kind of a weird thing. But it was like all the sudden I could stay at a task and complete the task without having the feeling, the urge to go do you know either other things on Facebook or whatever is that anecdotal to just me or is that?
Mathea Ford: [00:37:20] No, no, no I’ve heard that before. And also the anti anxiety benefit I have a lot of clients who have gone off their antianxiety and antidepressants taking CBD. Now, I don’t I definitely don’t recommend that people just stop cold turkey and switch to CBD. There’s a way that you want to do that and you need to you know work with your doctor and health care professional but you can absolutely taper off and substitute with CBD.
Mathea Ford: [00:37:52] Well great! Janice thank you so much for being on the podcast today. It was a pleasure to have you on the show.
Janice Bissex: [00:37:59] It was great great chatting with humor. Keep up with all your wonderful work and getting the word out there about what dietitians are doing.
Mathea Ford: [00:38:09] Well I know about our listeners today I’ve learned a lot about cannabis and probably have never even thought about half the things we talked about so hopefully it stirs some in the brain and if the listeners want to connect with you what’s the best way to do that.
Janice Bissex: [00:38:23] Best way just reach out via my website JannabisWellness.com. I love to hear from people. And yeah absolutely reach out.
Mathea Ford: [00:38:33] Well guys that’s been another great episode of the Nutrition Experts Podcast. The podcast that is all about learning more so you can do more with nutrition in your life.